Erik Engheim
2 min readDec 10, 2022

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I don't want to push you to anything if you think this discussion is pointless. I just want to make sure you knew that I would take serious any argument you presented even if I cannot guarantee that I would agree with them.

Anyway, few people change opinion right away, but I encountered many people online which have changed my mind on topics I had strong opinions on. E.g. I used to be very opposed to nuclear energy until someone did a great job of responding to all my issues with it.

While we may not agree, I don't think it is for the reasons you assume. It is easy to think a white guy writing in English is equivalent to a stock liberal American. But I am not a liberal at all and I am actually quite opposed to a lot of liberalism.

My whole family has strong labour movement roots. My great grandfather was a union boss in Rjukan. My grandfather was a union representative in a printing shop. My other grandfather worked in a paper mill. My mother worked for the newspaper founded by the labour movement. My brother works for the unions and has been very active both as a union representative and within the Norwegian labour party.

We were both members of the labour party youth organization and spent time on Utøya. The place where right-wing terrorist Ander Behring Breivik massacred 70 teenagers because he deemed them too leftist/socialist or whatever.

I have been a lot around leftist thinking. Norway is not America. Forget everything you know about American liberalism. I grew up in a very politically leftist place. In so far as I am critical of some of the things you argued here it is precisely because it is exactly the kind of stuff I grew up hearing too much of. As I got older and started studying this stuff I realized how ideological charged a lot of this is.

That didn't make me a conservative or liberal. I am still a social democrat, but i don't buy all the popular narratives on the far-left. Especially when it comes to the issue of colonialism. I think people have a strong desire for moral clarity and they prefer nuances to not exist. But we got to deal with the world and history as it was and not as we wish it was. Every nation will experience that. Norwegian WW2 history also painted a caricature of German occupation which only now the last decades or so it is becoming clear was lacking in nuance.

All societies have holy cows they are reluctant to challenge.

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Erik Engheim
Erik Engheim

Written by Erik Engheim

Geek dad, living in Oslo, Norway with passion for UX, Julia programming, science, teaching, reading and writing.

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