Erik Engheim
3 min readSep 26, 2022

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Thanks for the article. As Norwegian though I must say that despite what you write is technically true, I don't agree with your framing and conclusions.

Most of what you describe has nothing to do with conservatism except the Monarchy and even the Scandinavian monarchies are outliers in that they are far more progressive than elsewhere. The crown prince married a single mom. The present king was among the first in Europe to marry a commoner.

The present Norwegian king has in speeches embraced immigrants, minorities, gays and lesbians. Not exactly a champion of conservative values in other words.

Former king, Olav V was an avid cross country skiier just like every other Norwegian. He had is own favorite trail around Nordmarka where all regular Norwegians go around. He didn't ski around on some big private property. He skiied around with his dog and normal people. You could wave to the king in the 70s as he went past you on the opposite pists. His trail is market off in the forest today so you can follow the pists he used to go in the winter.

During the oil crisis in the 1970s, to show solidarity with the people he didn't take his car up to Nordmarka to go on his ski trip. Instead he took the tram like regular people. He sat on a seat next to other people using public transport.

It is why we called him the "Folk" king in Norway.

One cannot quite consider preservation of tradition as conservative in Norway. Politics and values don't work that way in Norway as it does in anglo-saxon countries. It was progressives in Norway which pushed traditional crafts and traditions in Norway. Conservatives mostly opposed it deeming it primitive and uncivilized. Conservatives represented the powerful and rich elite which embraced what was deemed more "civilized" from Denmark and continental Europe. They were snobs who didn't like the traditions of the common people.

As for alcohol politics. I think it is wrong to call that conservative. Conservatism is opposed to drinking due to Christian values deeming it a sin to drink. It is a question of morals and sin. Alcohol regulations in Scandinavia came from a desire to avoid the social problems and damage it did to the working class. It was the working class itself opposing it.

Just like stricter laws against prostitution does not come from a Christian conservative morality point of view deeming sex wrong, but from a leftist feminist point of view considering prostitution exploitation of women. That is why it is not illegal to be a prostitute but illegal to pay them for the guy.

I take a slight offense at deeming balanced budgets conservative, as if being spendrift and irresponsible is a natural trait of people with leftist views. Here in Norway it is the populist right who are reckless spendrifts. That social democrats and socialist want to raise taxes to cover their expenses can hardly be called conservative.

The low corporate tax is not really because of a belief that corporate taxes must be low but because Scandianvian countries are so small and trade dependent. It is our size that force us to keep corporate taxes low to avoid companies moving out of the country to tax paradises. Had we been in much larger country that policy would have been different. Just look at the US with quite high corporate taxes. It is easier to do that in a big country.

Why do you consider hunting conservative? Is fishing conservative as well? Just because hunting is associated with Repbulicans in the US doesn't mean it is some conservative thing in Scandinavia. Outdoor life is strongly favored among all political classes in Norway. My brother who is active member of the Social Democratic party is an avid hunter and fisher.

Not bailing out big corporations is conservative? That is also an odd take? The left is expected to aid the rich in times of crisis? Give them billions like the US did durign the bank crisis? Nope, when we had the bank crisis the government took over the banks and the rich lost all their money unlike the US where they paid themselves fat bonuses. I'd call that leftist not conservative.

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Erik Engheim
Erik Engheim

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Geek dad, living in Oslo, Norway with passion for UX, Julia programming, science, teaching, reading and writing.

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